| Name: Jeff Spicolli | Date: August 1, 2005 | |
| Email: jeffspicolli@telecottage.com | Time: 10:12 AM | |
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Message What a great site. You must be brilliant | ||
| Name: Susan Wight | Date: May 29, 2005 | |
| Email: susanwight@comcast.net | Time: 11:02 PM | |
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Message My son and I have really been enjoying your website--right after eating ice cream, of course! I LOVED the ice cream truck when I was a girl (well, I still do) and I hate to think of the rare truck out there being silenced--or worse using bells. What's wrong with those folks? | ||
| Name: m forde | Date: October 6, 2004 | |
| Email: maforde@msn.com | Time: 11:30 PM | |
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Message i've been selling icecream for 5yours and all i'm saying is bells are for sleighs icecream music means life to a childs lips | ||
| Name: Ben Davis | Date: August 22, 2004 | |
| Email: bendavis@jps.net | Time: 11:06 PM | |
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Message I just realized that all the comments are 5 years old. BOY, AM I BEHIND THE TIMES! | ||
| Name: Ben Davis | Date: August 22, 2004 | |
| Email: bendavis@jps.net | Time: 11:05 PM | |
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Message I live by a small park. My neighbors and I talk about what we'd like to do to the ice cream trucks all the time. It's not nice (what we say). For their protection, and our spiritual safety, they should pipe down | ||
| Name: John Henderson | Date: April 19, 1999 | |
| Email: JHender161@aol.com | Time: 11:06 AM | |
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Message Folks I'm in my mmid-30's and one of my best childhood memories is that of the icecream truck coming every evening. The music let us know how close they were so we could get our money ready and run. If anyone out there knows where I can find a used truck I'd love to know where I can buy one. Everyone I have found has been new and outrageously espensive. | ||
| Name: Pete's Frozen Treats | Date: April 17, 1999 | |
| Email: Bambi495@ptdprolog.net | Time: 11:24 PM | |
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Message I am starting a new route and in the area I will service no one has used music as far back as I can remember. They use a burgular alarm . I will be using a music box and will advertise my business without interferrence from the authorities . I hope. | ||
| Name: arhiesicecream | Date: April 10, 1999 | |
| Email: c.keuilian@gte.net | Time: 01:39 AM | |
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Message if you guys dig icecream trucks then check out www.archiesicecream.com | ||
| Name: Joe Boisvert | Date: April 9, 1999 | |
| Email: BIGDADDYJOEB@YAHOO.com | Time: 11:13 PM | |
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Message I AM THE ICE CREAM MAN AND CONGRADULATIONSON THE DECISION AND IM YELLING NOW HA HA | ||
| Name: Mc5 | Date: March 21, 1999 | |
| Email: | Time: 09:09 PM | |
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Message Kick Out The Jams! | ||
| Name: Jeff Cabaniss | Date: March 6, 1999 | |
| Email: cabaniss@bellatlantic.net | Time: 08:57 AM | |
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Message I added this link to my homepage to help inform some of the my customers of the facts regarding the MUSIC debate. If any visitors got to this point without visiting my web site, please check it out. It is still under construction, but is available for visits. www.hotyellow98.com/freeze It will soon be accessed by my perminant address: www.jef-freezetreats.com I also want to advise my customers to look for the new movie Documentary "Ice Cream Man". Jef-Freeze Treats was the subject (1 of 3) of this Hollywood film-maker's efforts. He spent a full day with me last August, filming me in action. The film will explore the MUSIC controversy, as well as feature many interviews with customers and beautiful film shots of our great beaches on Long Beach Island. I am told that the movie will be released soon (This Spring), and will be submitted to many Film Festivals. | ||
| Name: carl | Date: March 4, 1999 | |
| Email: webstriker@webtv.net | Time: 08:09 PM | |
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Message great HP. i've gotta come back to get all the news. HI JEN...... read you soon. | ||
| Name: Jennifer Pallone | Date: March 4, 1999 | |
| Email: jenspal@webtv.net | Time: 06:29 PM | |
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Message Hi ya dad! I think you did a great job on your home page!! Love you lots! | ||
| Name: Pat Williams | Date: December 27, 1998 | |
| Email: patsyclinetn@webtv.net | Time: 09:30 PM | |
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Message Stafford Township is always crying the blues about noise.I never heard of a place with so much crying.If its not the airplanes its the icecream man. They sould all hear the song by Neil Diamond called Beautiful Noise where he says Its the sounds of life. | ||
| Name: Jeff Cabaniss | Date: September 7, 1998 | |
| Email: cabaniss@bellatlantic.net | Time: 09:45 AM | |
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Message The issues surrounding the 'music' debate have been the subject of local, national and international media attention. From The Beacon to CNN, the media has followed the story with interest. On Saturday. Sept. 5, a Hollywood filmmaker spent the day with me making his film 'ICE CREAM MAN'. He read the story in the N.Y. TIMES and called me to see if I was interested in his project. His crew filmed over 4 hours of tape. Everything including interviews of me and my customers to the beauty of Long Beach Island will be featured in this film. A Spring '99 release is anticipated. | ||
| Name: Steve Brescia | Date: August 6, 1998 | |
| Email: steve@telecottage.com | Time: 08:35 AM | |
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Message So, do you think if someone was burning an American Flag on the beach in Beach Haven that no one would infringe on his First Amendment Rights? (At least while the Police weren't there) Just kidding! I'm happy for you but still would rather the sound of bells at the top of the dunes then someone shouting out "ICE CREAM!!!" while I'm relaxing on the beach. | ||
| Name: Jeff Cabaniss (Jef-Freeze Treats) | Date: August 5, 1998 | |
| Email: cabaniss@bellatlantic.net | Time: 05:19 PM | |
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Message Steve; I thought you would like to know that today, I won another court victory (actually Gil Farr argued and won the case). Long Beach Twp. had enacted an ordinance which prohibited ice cream vendors from carrying passengers while selling. This idiotic law attempted to dictate to me just how many employees that I'm allowed to have helping me at the beach. The judge threw it out, as an illegal attempt to regulate business. My position, as always, is that governments have no authority to dictate to any business, how they choose to advertise (music ban);nor how many employees they are allowed. Would they attempt to dictate to McDonalds just how many cashiers that they are allowed? Next on the agenda is Beach Haven, who is enforcing a ban on shouting out "ice cream" at the beach. They say it is disturbing to the people on the beach. That may be so, however the First Amendment guarantees me the right to identify myself by shouting if I choose. As Judge Cooper has already said in her ruling in my 'music' case; "The public can exercise it's right to refuse to purchase from that vendor if they choose." Sadly, today it is legal to burn an American Flag on the beach in Beach Haven, but against the law to shout out "ice cream". Is this what Free Speach is all about? My challenge to this illegal law will occur tomorrow, when I will shout out in front of a police officer, in hopes of being cited. I can only guess that the media will, once again, take up the debate. I am more than willing to comply with all reasonable and legal regulations concerning vendors; however, because this business is my only income, I feel obligated to contest any law which violates my rights as guaranteed by our Constitution. MUSIC, EMPLOYEES, SHOUTING.....What will they think of next to harrass the vendors? Thank you again for creating this web page, which allows for an honest discussion of the issues. Jeff | ||
| Name: Jeff Cabaniss( Jef-Freeze Treats) | Date: July 10, 1998 | |
| Email: cabaniss@bellatlantic.net | Time: 08:52 AM | |
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Message Steve; Your comments are accurate in that I was not playing the music excessively loud, nor was I shouting out with my voice over a loud speaker to attract customers. Those tactics were use by other vendors. As you now know, I am the only 'Softee' vendor, and my business does attract repeat customers because of the superior quality of my product, as well as the uniqueness of it. In order to identify myself to my customers, I choose to play a jingle, different than the popsicle vendors, so my customers will be able to identify my truck as the 'Softee' truck. The illegal ordinance, which reduced all vendors to using 'hand bells' only, would have taken away my "music identity", and would have eliminated the competative edge that I have worked 7 years to establish. Your comment that I felt that I was being 'punished' is accurate. For that reason alone, I chose to fight the music ban. Much has been made about other vendors not joining with me in the lawsuit. I believe that they would welcome any opportunity to increase their market share by reducing mine. By eliminating my music, my customers will not know if the truck on their street is me, or a popsicle competator. Hope this clears up my motivations for my challenge to the music ban. | ||
| Name: Steve Brescia | Date: July 7, 1998 | |
| Email: steve@telecottage.com | Time: 08:36 AM | |
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Message Dear Mr. Slop The only reason that I can think of that you didn't understand that comment is that you work in a business where people only come once and don't return after that. If you have a good quality product, people will WANT to find you. Your product will set you apart. Your customers will inform their friends, etc., etc. If you have the same standard product as everyone else, you have to be more colorful or shout louder than the rest to be noticed. That is what was happening here where the trucks were cranking their volumes and even shouting over their load speakers to draw attention. I think the reason that Mr. Cabaniss was fighting this so vigirously was that he was not doing these things yet seemed to be punished anyway. He is the only truck out there, that I know of, that serves soft-serve ice cream instead of the standard "frozen-to-20-below-rock-hard-2-year-old-ice-block-on-a-stick." If I was a child with my one dollar allowance, I would wait for something better than your standard frozen treat. It's called Economics 101. Probably should be a required course in school so that people can understand what horrible things the government is doing with our taxes. (opps, now I'm ranting) I hope that helps your confusion, Mr Slop. Steve | ||
| Name: Spokesperson, Slop Brand Art | Date: June 9, 1998 | |
| Email: Slop@sky.net | Time: 01:17 PM | |
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Message As a recent-comer to this story, I cannot resist the need to respond to a rather old comment, specifically Mr. Brescia's statement dated March 26th that "If this guy needs a load (sic) speaker system to get kids to come and get Ice Cream then he's doing something wrong . . . If Cabaniss would put better ice cream on his truck than (sic) maybe he wouldn't have to do a song-and-dance to get kids to come by." This statement seems odd, in light of the fact that this businessperson needs to attract people from their homes in order to make a living. The sound is a necessary indicator of his presence. What does the quality of his ice cream have to do with this issue? Are you saying that if he had better ice cream on his truck, people would sense its presence, and walk into the street in droves? A hand-bell, a loudspeaker, they serve the same purpose, which is to advertise his presence. For me the key to this issue is the fact that this noise is fleeting. Perhaps it is annoying to hear the same song over and over, but after all, that is the foundation of advertising -- recognition. The truck is there and then it is gone. At worst you put up with it for a few minutes. This is very different from the kind of unavoidable sound pollution one finds today so often. The airport is a prison now because wherever you sit you are barraged by an excessively loud TV spouting CNN Travelers news or some such other rubbish. One can hardly think or read in such an environment. Ultimately, I have no doubt that some disgruntled traveller, grounded by a long delay and annoyed by the constant and unsought-after noise from the TV's and speakers that now lurk in every airport waiting area and increasingly in the stores and restaurants where one might seek refuge, will explode in some violent outburst. A few strains of Turkey In The Straw, however, seems like a slight annoyance that grown-ups can withstand for the sake of letting at least one vestige of charming American childhood traditions stand. | ||
| Name: Jeff Cabaniss | Date: April 24, 1998 | |
| Email: cabaniss@bellatlantic.net | Time: 08:51 AM | |
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Message Thanks for the congradulations. The legal battle seems to be over.You point about how unpopular an adult would be if "he came up to an ice cream truck...complaining", actually is part of my arguement. While some adults (mostly senior citizens) may be bothered by the music, their concerns must be weighed against the desires of the thousands of children, who are not bothered by it. | ||
| Name: Steven Brescia | Date: April 21, 1998 | |
| Email: steve@telecottage.com | Time: 08:21 AM | |
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Message Congradulations on the ruling. I wouldn't have thought this was a First Admendment issue but lawyers and judges are funny people. I'm glad to hear (or not hear, as the case may be) that you have lowered the volume of the ice cream truck music. I'm sorry about the Adult bookstore reference...I was trying for the absurd and I guess I missed. I understand that you are looking out for children and you personally haven’t heard any complaints but can you imagine how unpopular an adult would be if he came up to an ice cream truck surrounded by children and started complaining to the driver who is busy trying to fill 10 ice cream orders at one time. I'd feel like one of those crotchety old men standing on their lawn and waving their canes. (My appologies to the AARP) My house would be an egg-magnet come next mischief night. | ||
| Name: Jeff Cabaniss | Date: April 20, 1998 | |
| Email: cabaniss@bellatlantis.net | Time: 09:23 PM | |
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Message It's great to fianlly debate this issue with someone who can clearly and accurately state their opinion. While I do respect your opinions on this, I would like to respond to as many of your comments as possible. First, Mister Softee began it's business in 1952 and worked in my neighborhood when I was a child. Second, this is a First Amendment issue as determined by Judge Cooper. It was her ruling in Federal Court today which issued a restraining order, preventing Stafford Twp. from enforcing this illegal ordinance. FRONT PAGE coverage in all local papers tomorrow! Third, Adult Bookstores may not display public nudity because it is has been ruled obscene. While you may dislike the music, there is nothing obscene about it, so your comparison is shallow. Fourth, if the Golden Arches had been using music as their identity for over 40 years, it could not be ruled illegal, as Stafford has attempted here. Finally, as the driver of an ice cream truck, I want every possible thing (stop sign, music, speed limits, etc...) available as a protection for our children. I could not live with myself if a child was injured (or worse) because another motorist was unaware that my truck in the area as a result of no music to alert him! Please understand... I want to be responsive to those who are complaining about the music. Because of the complaints to the township, I am voluntarily reducing the volume level of the music anyway. I must also say that in over 6 years, no one has ever complained to me personally about the volume. If they had, as a responsible member of the community, I would have responded with that same action. I was never given that option by anyone, especially Stafford Twp. | ||
| Name: Steven Brescia | Date: April 20, 1998 | |
| Email: steve@telecottage.com | Time: 02:57 PM | |
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Message Thank you for responding Mr. Cabaniss. I may not be very informed about the vending business but after living here for over 30 years I'd like to think I know the area. The quiet streets and friendly neighbors you greet over the back fence. To have a squawky tune play repetitively til your back teeth start to grind, trundling down these quiet streets kinda sours the lemonade. "Ice cream trucks have used music to announce themselves to the neighborhood for over 40 years."???? In my 32 years of living here, I've only heard these tunes in the past 15 years. This isn't a First Amendment battle. You are hawking ice cream, not making your beliefs known. The township regulates ALL commerce within the town limits and how they can advertise. Why can't the Adult Bookstore put up a billboard with a nude man or woman on it? Would the township be infringing on his free speech if the owner was denied that privilge? Or, to hit a little closer, why can't the local "Golden Arches" just start repetitively blaring out their jingle to all the people driving past on 72? Would that be fair to the people who live near by? How can the kids currently tell the difference between McDs and BK without that? And, finally, the tinny tunes acting as a "child" warning is fanciful. Most of the streets where you sell your wares are posted at 25mph and most cars, in the summer, have their ac cranked so they couldn't even hear the tunes. And if you turn up the tunes, how can you hear the children? The car drivers rely on the visual clues like those "stop" signs which pop out when you stop and which you already have. To say "our kids are in danger" is kind of a cheap shot. I'm sure that you're a smart business man and will recover from this if the ruling goes against you. Your identity will not be "lost." Kids are very loyal if you give them a reason to be. Paint your truck with gold strips so the kids can visually tell and come around at a specific time so they know when to expect you. | ||